BigMuscle22
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Introduction:
Hey everyone,
I’m starting my first AAS cycle after doing a lot of research and seeing how others have approached their cycles. I’ve been around the gym for years, training naturally, and have a solid foundation. I resisted the peer pressure to jump into heavy cycles too soon, but after a long recovery from surgery and hitting a plateau, I feel like it’s the right time to test the waters. I’ll be documenting the progress here, and I’d love to hear your experiences or advice along the way!
My Training History:
- Early 20s: Built a decent base naturally, hovering around 90kg (~200lbs).
- 2017-2018: Bulked to 100kg (~220lbs), focusing on powerlifting. BF% probably around 18-20%. Felt strong but not great overall.
- Post-2018: Maintained around 92kg (~202lbs) with casual lifting, energy levels good, BF% around 15%.
- 2020-2021: Focused on MMA/kickboxing. Cut down to 83kg (~183lbs) for a competition, water cut to 76kg (~167lbs). It was tough on my health, so I shifted priorities afterward.
- Post-2021: Maintained around 86kg (~190lbs) with casual lifting.
- 2023: After surgery, took a 6-month break from lifting, focusing on cardio and low-weight high-volume training. Gradually returned to lifting and did a natural recomp to 91kg (~200lbs).
Pre-Cycle:
- Height: 5'10" (178 cm)
- Weight: 91.7 kg (~202 lbs)
- Body Fat: 13.9% (estimate)
- Age: 32
- Pre-cycle Bloods: Test 12 nmol/L (Low Normal)
- Alcohol: Occasional (once every two weeks)
Cycle Details:
- Cycle Duration: 12 weeks (may extend to 16 weeks depending on progress).
- AAS: Test E 375mg/week, Primo E 140mg/week.
- Frequency: Every 3.5 days (E3.5D) split dosing.
- AI: None at the moment (testing how my body responds first).
- PCT: Clomid on hand, will start after cycle ends.
- Bloodwork: Taken at week 7, waiting for results.
Diet:
- Total Calories: 3600 kcal (aiming for a clean bulk).
- Meals: Eggs, meat, rice, oats, Greek yogurt, muesli, tuna, full cream milk, whey and casein protein (AM and PM).
- Supplements:
- Vitamin D, Glucose, Glutamine.
- Pre-workout: Creatine HCL (Mono doesn’t sit well with me), Citrulline.
- Alcohol: Zero alcohol during the cycle.
Training:
- Frequency: Full body workout twice a week with Push/Pull/Legs split, plus an optional rest day.
- Rep Range: Progressive overload with 8-12 reps and 3-4 sets per exercise.
- Training Philosophy: Focus on compound movements (for main muscle groups), followed by isolation and stretching exercises. Tempo: 2020 for controlled motion.
- Injury Adjustments: Tweaked exercises for injuries and imbalances.
- Cardio: 2-3 low-intensity sessions per week (walking or sauna).
Sleep & Recovery:
- Sleep: A weak point, averaging 5-8 hours per night with broken sleep.
- Injury History: Minor shoulder, knee, and lower back issues from past training, though nothing that affects my cycle too much.
Cycle Sides & Adjustments:
- Sides:
- Minor water retention in legs and stomach.
- Itchy nipples on and off (likely elevated estrogen).
- Minor acne on shoulders starting from week 3.
- Libido: 75% normal (suspecting elevated E2, bloodwork will confirm).
- Adjustments Planned:
- Increase calories to 3800 kcal.
- Adjust Primo ratio to 1:1 or 0.75:1 (Test E: Primo E).
- Ancillaries:
- Nolva for 1-2 weeks to manage nipple sensitivity.
- Low-dose Aromasin until PCT.
- Cialis for better overall experience.
- PCT Plan: Clomid after cycle completion. Considering a cruise dose of Test E, slow cut, and a potential bulk once I hit 10% body fat. Will monitor E2 sides and adjust as necessary.
So far, the cycle has been going well with steady progress in muscle mass. The side effects are manageable, and I’m adjusting things as needed. I’m also thinking about the next steps after the cycle, including possible PCT, cruise dose, and adjusting my diet accordingly.
Would love to hear from anyone who’s had similar experiences with Test + Primo cycles or anyone who has insights on managing sides like water retention and estrogen issues. Feel free to share your experiences or ask questions!
Hey everyone,
I’m starting my first AAS cycle after doing a lot of research and seeing how others have approached their cycles. I’ve been around the gym for years, training naturally, and have a solid foundation. I resisted the peer pressure to jump into heavy cycles too soon, but after a long recovery from surgery and hitting a plateau, I feel like it’s the right time to test the waters. I’ll be documenting the progress here, and I’d love to hear your experiences or advice along the way!
My Training History:
- Early 20s: Built a decent base naturally, hovering around 90kg (~200lbs).
- 2017-2018: Bulked to 100kg (~220lbs), focusing on powerlifting. BF% probably around 18-20%. Felt strong but not great overall.
- Post-2018: Maintained around 92kg (~202lbs) with casual lifting, energy levels good, BF% around 15%.
- 2020-2021: Focused on MMA/kickboxing. Cut down to 83kg (~183lbs) for a competition, water cut to 76kg (~167lbs). It was tough on my health, so I shifted priorities afterward.
- Post-2021: Maintained around 86kg (~190lbs) with casual lifting.
- 2023: After surgery, took a 6-month break from lifting, focusing on cardio and low-weight high-volume training. Gradually returned to lifting and did a natural recomp to 91kg (~200lbs).
Pre-Cycle:
- Height: 5'10" (178 cm)
- Weight: 91.7 kg (~202 lbs)
- Body Fat: 13.9% (estimate)
- Age: 32
- Pre-cycle Bloods: Test 12 nmol/L (Low Normal)
- Alcohol: Occasional (once every two weeks)
Cycle Details:
- Cycle Duration: 12 weeks (may extend to 16 weeks depending on progress).
- AAS: Test E 375mg/week, Primo E 140mg/week.
- Frequency: Every 3.5 days (E3.5D) split dosing.
- AI: None at the moment (testing how my body responds first).
- PCT: Clomid on hand, will start after cycle ends.
- Bloodwork: Taken at week 7, waiting for results.
Diet:
- Total Calories: 3600 kcal (aiming for a clean bulk).
- Meals: Eggs, meat, rice, oats, Greek yogurt, muesli, tuna, full cream milk, whey and casein protein (AM and PM).
- Supplements:
- Vitamin D, Glucose, Glutamine.
- Pre-workout: Creatine HCL (Mono doesn’t sit well with me), Citrulline.
- Alcohol: Zero alcohol during the cycle.
Training:
- Frequency: Full body workout twice a week with Push/Pull/Legs split, plus an optional rest day.
- Rep Range: Progressive overload with 8-12 reps and 3-4 sets per exercise.
- Training Philosophy: Focus on compound movements (for main muscle groups), followed by isolation and stretching exercises. Tempo: 2020 for controlled motion.
- Injury Adjustments: Tweaked exercises for injuries and imbalances.
- Cardio: 2-3 low-intensity sessions per week (walking or sauna).
Sleep & Recovery:
- Sleep: A weak point, averaging 5-8 hours per night with broken sleep.
- Injury History: Minor shoulder, knee, and lower back issues from past training, though nothing that affects my cycle too much.
Cycle Sides & Adjustments:
- Sides:
- Minor water retention in legs and stomach.
- Itchy nipples on and off (likely elevated estrogen).
- Minor acne on shoulders starting from week 3.
- Libido: 75% normal (suspecting elevated E2, bloodwork will confirm).
- Adjustments Planned:
- Increase calories to 3800 kcal.
- Adjust Primo ratio to 1:1 or 0.75:1 (Test E: Primo E).
- Ancillaries:
- Nolva for 1-2 weeks to manage nipple sensitivity.
- Low-dose Aromasin until PCT.
- Cialis for better overall experience.
- PCT Plan: Clomid after cycle completion. Considering a cruise dose of Test E, slow cut, and a potential bulk once I hit 10% body fat. Will monitor E2 sides and adjust as necessary.
So far, the cycle has been going well with steady progress in muscle mass. The side effects are manageable, and I’m adjusting things as needed. I’m also thinking about the next steps after the cycle, including possible PCT, cruise dose, and adjusting my diet accordingly.
Would love to hear from anyone who’s had similar experiences with Test + Primo cycles or anyone who has insights on managing sides like water retention and estrogen issues. Feel free to share your experiences or ask questions!