GeneticGoldmine
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Hey everyone, here we go. I've tried to write this post a couple of times over the past few months, only to delete it and close the topic. The reason for my hesitation is that the subject I'm about to bring up can easily be misunderstood, and I don't want to risk it being misused by people who might take it the wrong way.
Once you’ve been using performance compounds for a long time, you begin experimenting, trying things that might not be the standard protocol.
Some people—especially newcomers—might take them out of context or adopt them too early in their training. For example, we’ve all worked hard to establish solid guidelines for safe use—like starting with a test-only cycle, or adding one compound at a time to understand its effects. But those of us with more experience sometimes want to push the boundaries of what’s been accepted, and that’s where we get into trouble.
A friend of mine said, "It would be nice if we had a thread where only a select group of us could discuss these advanced ideas, without the fear of them becoming mainstream and misused by beginners." It sounds strange, but it makes sense. We’ve spent years developing a responsible approach to performance enhancement, and we don’t want those protocols diluted or misinterpreted.
That said, it’s time to have a more open discussion about what we’ve learned through experience, especially for those of us who’ve been using compounds for many years. It’s something worth considering to avoid influencing beginners who might not yet be ready for these concepts. That being said, it’s essential to make it clear: if you’re new to gear, don't jump straight to the more advanced stuff, and if you do, that’s on you.
Now, let’s dive into what I’ve been thinking about recently: the concept of “HGH, Born Again.” This is something I’ve only discussed with a couple of trusted people in private, but today, I’m ready to share it more openly. HGH has historically been used for three main purposes:
1. Treating growth deficiencies in children with pituitary issues.
2. As part of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for anti-aging.
3. To promote muscle growth beyond what oils and orals can achieve.
Today, I want to suggest a fourth use for HGH—something that hasn't been widely discussed but has the potential to change how we think about cycles and recovery. Let’s start with a simple concept: action and reaction.
When we introduce a hormone into the body—whether by injection or orally—the body reacts to restore balance. For example, when you inject testosterone, the body notices the spike and responds by shutting down its natural production to maintain homeostasis. The HPTA (hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis) works to keep things balanced, and if too much testosterone is introduced, the body will take measures to counteract it.
The same logic applies when we use other compounds, including HGH. So, if we add HGH to our cycle—not to boost muscle mass but to help maintain balance during a cycle or recovery phase—we could achieve a healthier, more productive process.
Here’s the theory:
- A cycle of 500mg of testosterone combined with 2 IU of HGH daily might be more effective and much healthier than running two compounds at higher dosages. Why? Because balance. The body operates more efficiently when it’s in balance, and this approach helps regulate the hormonal fluctuations we usually face during a cycle. Think of it like turning down the AC on a hot day instead of just cranking it up full blast. By adding HGH in small doses, you're "closing the windows," helping your body better manage the "furnace" of hormonal fluctuations.
Now, I know what you're thinking: "But we've always said HGH is for the long-term, for muscle building, not something to add to a cycle at low doses." And you're right, traditionally, HGH has been viewed as something you only use over months to see muscle growth effects. But for cycle health, I'm suggesting a new approach—using HGH in smaller doses during the cycle and PCT to support overall hormonal balance and recovery. This isn’t about adding muscle mass directly but about creating a healthier environment in the body during and after your cycle.
Here's another thought: during PCT, we're trying to restart natural testosterone production. Typically, we use drugs like Nolvadex to trigger the feedback loops necessary for this process. But if we continue to use HGH in small doses (like 2 IU/day) during PCT, we could double the positive feedback loop effect, helping stimulate natural testosterone production more effectively.
In short, this is a way to improve the quality of your cycle and recovery, not just the quantity of muscle you build. It’s about health, balance, and a more efficient approach to performance enhancement.
I’m sure this idea will spark some debate—and that’s exactly what I want. I don’t have all the answers, but I believe it’s worth exploring. For those of you who have been around for a while, I’d love to hear your thoughts and experiences. For those just starting out, remember: start slow, understand what you’re doing, and don’t jump straight to complex ideas before mastering the basics.
Once you’ve been using performance compounds for a long time, you begin experimenting, trying things that might not be the standard protocol.
Some people—especially newcomers—might take them out of context or adopt them too early in their training. For example, we’ve all worked hard to establish solid guidelines for safe use—like starting with a test-only cycle, or adding one compound at a time to understand its effects. But those of us with more experience sometimes want to push the boundaries of what’s been accepted, and that’s where we get into trouble.
A friend of mine said, "It would be nice if we had a thread where only a select group of us could discuss these advanced ideas, without the fear of them becoming mainstream and misused by beginners." It sounds strange, but it makes sense. We’ve spent years developing a responsible approach to performance enhancement, and we don’t want those protocols diluted or misinterpreted.
That said, it’s time to have a more open discussion about what we’ve learned through experience, especially for those of us who’ve been using compounds for many years. It’s something worth considering to avoid influencing beginners who might not yet be ready for these concepts. That being said, it’s essential to make it clear: if you’re new to gear, don't jump straight to the more advanced stuff, and if you do, that’s on you.
Now, let’s dive into what I’ve been thinking about recently: the concept of “HGH, Born Again.” This is something I’ve only discussed with a couple of trusted people in private, but today, I’m ready to share it more openly. HGH has historically been used for three main purposes:
1. Treating growth deficiencies in children with pituitary issues.
2. As part of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for anti-aging.
3. To promote muscle growth beyond what oils and orals can achieve.
Today, I want to suggest a fourth use for HGH—something that hasn't been widely discussed but has the potential to change how we think about cycles and recovery. Let’s start with a simple concept: action and reaction.
When we introduce a hormone into the body—whether by injection or orally—the body reacts to restore balance. For example, when you inject testosterone, the body notices the spike and responds by shutting down its natural production to maintain homeostasis. The HPTA (hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis) works to keep things balanced, and if too much testosterone is introduced, the body will take measures to counteract it.
The same logic applies when we use other compounds, including HGH. So, if we add HGH to our cycle—not to boost muscle mass but to help maintain balance during a cycle or recovery phase—we could achieve a healthier, more productive process.
Here’s the theory:
- A cycle of 500mg of testosterone combined with 2 IU of HGH daily might be more effective and much healthier than running two compounds at higher dosages. Why? Because balance. The body operates more efficiently when it’s in balance, and this approach helps regulate the hormonal fluctuations we usually face during a cycle. Think of it like turning down the AC on a hot day instead of just cranking it up full blast. By adding HGH in small doses, you're "closing the windows," helping your body better manage the "furnace" of hormonal fluctuations.
Now, I know what you're thinking: "But we've always said HGH is for the long-term, for muscle building, not something to add to a cycle at low doses." And you're right, traditionally, HGH has been viewed as something you only use over months to see muscle growth effects. But for cycle health, I'm suggesting a new approach—using HGH in smaller doses during the cycle and PCT to support overall hormonal balance and recovery. This isn’t about adding muscle mass directly but about creating a healthier environment in the body during and after your cycle.
Here's another thought: during PCT, we're trying to restart natural testosterone production. Typically, we use drugs like Nolvadex to trigger the feedback loops necessary for this process. But if we continue to use HGH in small doses (like 2 IU/day) during PCT, we could double the positive feedback loop effect, helping stimulate natural testosterone production more effectively.
In short, this is a way to improve the quality of your cycle and recovery, not just the quantity of muscle you build. It’s about health, balance, and a more efficient approach to performance enhancement.
I’m sure this idea will spark some debate—and that’s exactly what I want. I don’t have all the answers, but I believe it’s worth exploring. For those of you who have been around for a while, I’d love to hear your thoughts and experiences. For those just starting out, remember: start slow, understand what you’re doing, and don’t jump straight to complex ideas before mastering the basics.
